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inblack83
Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 398
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Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2013 10:56 am Post subject: Rasing the XP Starting CAP |
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This is a public vote so i can share,
What are opinions on owbn raising it from 30 to 60 xp at creation? |
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Father Noah
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 82 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
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Posted: Mon Nov 11, 2013 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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Would it be retroactive? _________________ "You said you use Nosferatu as a storyteller device, but I haven't seen any of them." |
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Father Noah
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 82 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
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Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:32 pm Post subject: |
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If all characters already in play get up to an extra 30xp bump, ST discretion, then I'm all for it. If not, it kinda unbalances things at a <200 xp level. _________________ "You said you use Nosferatu as a storyteller device, but I haven't seen any of them." |
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inblack83
Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 398
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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it is only retroactive for PC created within the last 16 weeks. |
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Father Noah
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 82 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
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Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:49 pm Post subject: |
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Yeah, that's kinda unfair to everyone else. _________________ "You said you use Nosferatu as a storyteller device, but I haven't seen any of them." |
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WilliamJamesBardonia
Joined: 20 Jun 2011 Posts: 229 Location: Undisclosed Haven in Orange County
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:10 am Post subject: |
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I am indifferent if the starting cap is 30 or 60. It would be fun if to start a character with 60 extra points, but I have been fine with just 30. I am with Mark though, it would seem rather unfair to exclude the people just starting out around 30 builds if we go for this new 60. I am not sure what would count as Characters before this line or not. Mark? Why is the last 16 weeks unfair? That's close to four months. Why do you feel this way? _________________ OOC: Edward Rylands |
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Father Noah
Joined: 04 Nov 2011 Posts: 82 Location: Poughkeepsie, NY
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Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:01 am Post subject: |
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I understand the point of the proposal is to let new characters start enjoying the game more quickly, but an extra 30 points wouldn't just help a new sheet. It could benefit pretty much any character, regardless of size. I think it's unfair to give new characters an edge over characters over 4 months old.
The example I have been giving is:
"I have a Brujah that is 4 months old right now, and Jimmy just made one. Next month, when this proposal passes, Jimmy and my characters will be the same number of points on sheet, regardless of the fact that I have been working 5 times longer at it than him."
Also, from an in-game perspective, XP symbolizes a character's experience through what they have encountered and accomplished. If the starting cap is changed to 60, then it means that how much 'experience' a new character should have had with the world has been redefined. If that is the case, the XP older characters received for their creation should be adjusted to reflect this as well.
It's not as if, all of the sudden, new vampires are being embraced with more of an understanding of the world or vampiric nature. _________________ "You said you use Nosferatu as a storyteller device, but I haven't seen any of them." |
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Charles Rockledge
Joined: 18 Mar 2010 Posts: 515 Location: What do you mean "location"? I'm right here!
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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with Evan.
I do not think every new character needs to begin with +60exp. At the very least, starting XP should, by ST discretion, be based on backstory and background. A character with 1dot gen or has been ghoul for 7 years has an excuse to begin play with more xp and similarly a new PC of an old player that in one set of rules I believe had it they could begin with a certain percentage of bonus xp based on what their former character had in the bank or on the sheet. I think it was up to 50 points.
Their was a set if rules in the elders book for generating a new pc, that if adapted to non-elders should have enough bonus xp included to make an enjoyable character. _________________ "My Girls is clean and kind spirited".
"If you hurt them, I am going to kill you slowly."
-Insert humanity check. |
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inblack83
Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 398
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Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2013 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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It looks like this vote is going to win regardless at this point.
It's good to know UTR CAN give up to 60 IF they want to. should this pass in the next 3 days. |
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inblack83
Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 398
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Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 1:59 pm Post subject: |
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This vote passed by 10 votes. it is now an OWbN bylaw that states STs MAY give up to 60xp at creation, and it does allow for retro of any character made within 16 weeks. |
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