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should all charges be final death
should a lesser punishment happen
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should only inferanlist charge be death
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:02 pm    Post subject: when only the vamps are in Reply with quote

::simon walks in near closeing, walks up to the harliquins::

hey may i make a stament plzs. just 2 minutes of your time and the time of all the night owles.

the charges for the brujah named sniffles have just come to me and i feel they ned to be public, now on the day ofthe trail we will pick 5 random vamps and they ill be jury.

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The CHARGES against Mr. Sniffles
1.-) Selling his soul to Moloch, or some such.
This one should be a pretty straightforward one to prove or disprove
Proposed Penalty if guilty: FINAL DEATH

2.-) High Treason against the Barony and all the anarch bretherin of Rockland County.
This refers to the incident in which Mr. Sniffles sent an ensanguinated body in a car crashing into a public hotel, where (yes, it was common knowledge) the gathering was being held, and during a time when a particularly potent hunter threat was active in the region.

The human in question was an affiliate of the setites (needs confirmation?!?); and the ultimate result of the action was that the hunters attacked us in the hotel, rather than rendevousing at the mall in time to face the sabbat, then the camarilla. This lead to the unfortunate demise of several mortals, as well as the sabbat being at full strength when the camarilla came to call on them. The sabbat escaped alive and the camarilla suffered no losses; all and all a great trap wasted and the potential for further townships added to the Bardonia Barony, lost.
-NOTE: the trap bit is not to mentioned at the trial if the camarilla and sabbat witnesses are present.
Penalty if guilty: FINAL DEATH
Alternate Proposed Penalty: On account of my humanitas, conscience, and soft-heart, I am inclined to settle for a sentence of Exile from Bardonia Barony. Banishment from amongst the bretheren whose health and saftey he decided to betray.



3.-) Violation of the Treaty of Thorns in the form of wilfull and multiple breeches and/or threats-potential breeches of the masquerade.
-The above mentioned incident with the car, corpse and hotel, even if not found to be traitoroue or seditious on the part of Mr. Sniffles, is still a breech of the masquerade done wilfully and tying up resources other than his own to cover up, that could better be allocated elsewhere.

-The Blood Bank; possibly an ingenious idea actually if handle appropriatly. Defence must prove it was handled appropriatly i.e. victims are compleley unmissed or unmissable, legitimatly-faked ...I pause for the irony, death-records, cremation, etc. family witnessed funeral, etc. circumstances. If Mr. Sniffles simply snatched folk off the street with no thought to who may or may not be out looking for missing people with private detectives etc. then the bloodbank likewise constitutes a threat of being discovered that we would have to take unneccesary pains to hide.

-The embracing of children. Defence is free to argue that this does not automatically constitute a breech of the masquerade and cabinet is free to vote accordingly if so persuaded. However, as per my modus operandai of being a traditionalist, I am including the embrace of pre-pubescent humans under the charge of violating the masquerade; if for no other reason than it is the only real law anarchs do have; and if anything should be against the law in my book this is it.
Penalty if guilty: FINAL DEATH
Alternate Proposed Penalty: On account of my humanitas, conscience, and soft-heart, I am inclined to settle for a sentence of Exile from Bardonia Barony. Banishment from amongst the bretheren whose health and saftey he decided to betray.



3.-) Grivious and Egregious incompetency as Ganglord of the Hillbillies.
Under Mr. Sniffles watch, or lack thereof, his gang was corrupted by the servents of Moloch, or some such. They lost their souls to the dark forces of hell, performed savage rights without reguard to the masquerade, and all in all became a threat to rather than a protective force for, this county. As he is the ganglord, the tradjedy of what became of the hillbillies is his responsability, the failure to prevent it, or even to be aware of it, is his own, as is the failure to clean it up before it became such a problem for everyone that we all had to clean it up ourselves.

[b]Proposed Penalty if guilty: Mr. Sniffles will be officially stripped of his title as ganglord of the Hillbillies. Leadership will pass to Ashes if he is deemed competent, otherwise the gang will remain defunct for the time being; further, Mr. Sniffles may not hold the title of ganglord for any other gang nor be recognised within this county as such, nor may he hold the title of herald or enforcer in either the Hillbillies or in any other gang within this county; until such time as he once again is able to clearly demonstrate before the cabinet that he capable of handing responsability in a competent fashion.
-NOTE: This penalty presumes he is found not guilty of the above three charges.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wiggs with a beer in one hand looks at Simon. "geeez man you have been busy... So sniffles is a traitor... heh... I wonder being a infernalist is all what is cracked to be... Still do you have proof he is one? Cause sure last i checked he was sniffler and noser... But he is taking part with demons? Aren't you sure it ashes not sniffles who should be our man?" wiggs lights a cigarette and waits....
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

omg..


with a stern voice,, im defending him. i dont see any this to be worth his death. charles is charging him andgoing for death.. but i am pulling favors to find out the truth.

his is brujah and by that i will protect him.. but if he is infernal he dies by gods hand and my blade.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"um simon... I'm only and only going to say this once... Why is he convicted...As an infernalist and don't you dare dodge the question or lie..." Wiggs with still the lit cigarette waits for a answer...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:17 pm    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

omg your so dumb.. hes not convicted yet im trying to get him freed, i am defending him and charles is the prosacuter. all these charges by CHARLES are up in the air and im defending a fellow brujah. ad i plan on doing all i can to prove him not guilty..

do you need anymore clarification
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wiggs doesn't say a word... "okay.... you still need proof... Without it your case is for shit... fool... just remember your dealing with evil bedbugs... Your morality is your greatest strength and weakness... You need your proof before you can present it to Charles.. if he is guilty there very lil you can do for him... he made his choice and let it go... It only going to hurt more fool..." Wiggs still lites his cigarette...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:39 pm    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

if hes proven infernal he dies by my sword. only if hes proven and i plan to make sure proof is their on both sides, win or loose i will not let this trail be a steam roller just for the new rules.
i want him to be a true anarch but if hes a monster then so be it. but i am bringing this up for the other charges for the simple fact i dont feel anything other then infernal diserves death. alot of these charges diserve alot of punishmnt but if hes not infernal ..why final death
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"your not answering my question... DO YOU HAVE PROOOOOF!!!!!?" wiggs shouts as he made sure all in bar hears...
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 9:50 pm    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

proof. ill be getting proof hes not a infernal and if it turns out he is then ill have proof for his end. kinda sounded liek one minute you didnt want him on trail now it sounds liek you do... well i know i dont want u on the jury just for the fact that you cant give me a straight veiw
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Simon your full of crap... You need proof which you have none... You're as bad as Salem witch trials... Condemning women to death cause they are witches... And if died they weren't... Again you have no proof of anything if he is or not... So making everything you say hold no ground... I know that you'll just going to embarrass yourself... and without proof everyone is not going to take you seriously... If it was a grel... We would look into as a personal matter... However If any grel mate made pact with demon there on there own... But we get proof first... We have to truly find out if he/she influenced or joined by a demon. There's ways of doing that. Which you should get on top of that... instead having a opening court condemning perhaps a stupid hack that was at the wrong place, wrong time... and if you don't perhaps I will..." Wiggs puts his cigarette... As he does he says "Oh the Salem witch trials i heard it from someone... I dint read from a book like queer or something..."
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:05 pm    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

charles is takeing the word of the sabbat that sniffles is infernal . i dont agree i want the proof and not from the sabbat. i want it from mutliple groups and peopel that can see the truth. so hes acting with out proof and since he has the ball rolling hes puting sniffles up on trail for the masq breaks and the feeding style. again i dont agree for the simple reason is you cant force people to conform. its a resonable veiw point to want the changes but to force them as a prince forces is wrong
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:11 pm    Post subject: ... Reply with quote

:::LOLOLOLOL::

wow you think i am putting him on trail.. seriously ...NO charles is the one you wanna insult with that. i knwo you never listen or pay attention or care at all for anything but your own ass or paying off the peopel you owe so much. but your really dumb. im defending him,, do you know what defending him means... im on his side you tool, so aim your insults to charles since h wants this to happen.. i dont got it.. say you understand.. say im defending and i dont want him dead. because your embarsing yourself as ussaul. you have things backwords... ok reverse the peoel of blame plzs. im helping the accused and if their prrof either way then the law is the law. but i cant get over how dumb you are.. I AM DEFENDING HIM GOT IT....CHARLES IS THE GOING FOR THE WITCH TRAILS..

dam man i honor you on the battle field but you relly need to pay attention more
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"then Instead of asking for a jury goooo look for prooof man... Ill see what i can gather... I dont have any occult... but yohan, the tremere can help yah with that stuff... And good luck that where i look first... That or have venture dominate him force him to reveal everything.. It not preety... But it needs to be done... The question is... do you have spine? To do what needs to get done?"
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:15 pm    Post subject: .. Reply with quote

already have yohan helping me, and i already got taught dominate for this purpose,, anything else you got smart guy
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 04, 2011 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Then GOOOO GET THE PROOOF SMOCHT GUUUY!!!" Wiggs stammers as he speaks lol
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