Under The Rock

Ulrich Bardonia · Admin Joined: 02 Apr 2010 Posts: 108

1. You are missing the point, I admit what I did was morally reprehensible, but you were claiming it started this whole issue, my point was that it did not.

2. Are you truly such an idiot to think that I would allow anyone who I do not completely trust to enter my mind. I know you can dig through my brain with that power. Anything you have to say to me should be public. We are not best friends or even gang mates. I also never refuted anyone telling someone to leave.

3. I did

4. I would be more than happy to play my world's smallest violin in a concert for you as well. Let me know when you would like the performance.

5. Very well, if you would like to sit down with the Baron because you believe that our two gangs will go to war if you do not, then we can.

6. Fuck you! Wait, I'm not sure I was being clear enough, Fuck You! (spends a willpower to avoid frenzy and calms slightly) You can disrespect me all you want at this table, but Francois is not here to defend his name and make you feel like the steaming pile of shit that you are. You really dare to call the man who has helped to found the entire anarch movement a prince. The difference between you me is that if I felt that way I would tell Francois that to his face, whereas you would lick his asshole if he were here. I can't sit at the same table as trash any longer.

*Ulrich spits on Allura and walks out*

V......... · Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 7:24 am Post subject:

:: sighs:: well the prince commment was a little to much, but i think ulrich and alura are getting heated over this and need to relax, but if continueing this later would be helpful for those to calm down and for others to try not to start a fight , that would be great. we need to deal with this vote sooner then later

Charles Rockledge · Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:08 pm Post subject:

(OOC: I seem to have somehow missed a bit)
[quote="Alura"]Let's implement some dog sniffing dogs and some doctors around our borders and in their territory doing some basic health exams, because clearly we don't want any diseases coming into Rockland, and we'll keep em out. Clearly it wouldn't be an act of aggression.
What about sniffing dogs and doctors?
How would this keep the sabbat out?

And to punish the Bandalaros after two of their members died.
Versus which altenative choices of action? The bandelleros brought that upon themselves by choosing to interfere in the situation. I'm willing to accept the loss as more than punishment enough for that decision, but if the Bishop isn't, we're gonna have an issue. Do we respond by embracing conflict now, or do we try something else to maintain the peace. That something else is bandellero responsability first at the moment as the issue would not exist if not for them we'll all pick up the slack as needed, but it's still on the bandelleros that they can't seem to learn how self-control and how to keep their tempers in check.

Clearly the Sabbat were here for blood and they took it....Blood is just one ingrediant iin the cake. The sabbat want more than blood from us. They wnat converts. Also I wouldn't put it passed them to still be wanting what they outright asked us for before Fallen angels were formed; they want another township which perhaps they (mistakenly?,)feel they can successfully 'win' from us after a good fight.

You Charles weren't out there in the fire fight, risking your lives trying to save the Bandalaros. Stumbling around in the darkness, while being shot at. No you ran away, safe inside, while everyone else did all the work, and you "judged" from the sidelines..
Lady. You are lucky I wasn't out there in the firefight, trying to take the bandelleros down myself. I was this close to dread-gazing one of them before showd started settling in. They VIOLATED an agreement, BETRAYED our counties good name and fair intentions; on account of their own personal hatreds. In my eyes that makes them unworthy of my blood. I shed my blood only for those who deserve that honour from me. Those who have earned that sacrifiece, by their actions for this community. The bandelleros haven't earned MY blood. First they murder my friend V, then they shoot an already vanquished opponent in the face, then they basicly give the finger to our word as if integrity isn't worth a damn. This only recent things. I'd rather bleed for some of the gangrels pet ferrits then I would for the Bandelleros.

A time for action: yes. A time for war? No. We had 4 Sabbat vs almost every Anarch we had and we still had final deaths...
That's what happens when a random and disorganised 'street-fight' breaks out. Planned actions on the other hand with idividual groups assigned to specific targets based on which suits of abilities and disciplines they can bring to bear among other considerations thiugh makes for a very different story. Especially if we distribute things like heigten senses amongst us.
The DH is also a variable in the equation thatneeds to be removed.

Don't forget who started this ENTIRE mess. Ulric told the Sabbat they could kill mortals in the mall.
That's not all on Ulric. We had a cabinet meeting and all agreed we'd arrange for everythiong to go down at the mall. I approved this plan. Like all others of mice and men, and apparently vampyres, it ran amok and the hunters didn't engage them and the cam at the mall, but us in the hotel.

He personally welcomed the Sabbat when they showed up,
That's called Courtesy. When we don't decide to kill them on site for trespassing, but instead 'accept the presence of sabbat emmisaries at our meetings'. Then they are to be welcomed properly just like anyone elses emmisaries are. The Bishop needs to lear to ask us in advance for permission to send his emmisary. We shouls also have a say in who is sent. I don't mind them having someone here trying to preach at us or whatnot, but not when they show up uninvited in defiance of the treaty.

they were his guests.
that's a stretch. I've had folks show up to the gallery at times, art critics, etc. either to thank me or, you know, call me an asshole or what not. They're not my guest just because they come barging into my office. Neither are slice and dice 'guests' cause they show up to thank Ulric for arranging them a favor.

And when Eric told him and them is was time for them to leave, he disregarded that and had them stay a while.
You mean when he shot them? Which was right and proper by the way. I completley support the enforcers decision to chase off some uninvited 'guests'.

So why don't you hold Ulric responsible for his actions too?
Ulric IS responsable for his actions.

Or are the mortal lives at the mall and the deaths of Bandalaros and the disrespect of Ulric pissing on Side of fries, in their own area and The Council of The Rose, and your Sire not enough for you? Isn't it the role of Baron to settle Gang disputes?
You mixing too many unrelated circumstances into one issue. Don't do that. These are all seperate issues.

[/i]I'd also like to point out that, isn't it funny how you complained that 'I' was too Cam?[/i]
When did I say you were to cam?
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1. Sacrificing mortals to save anarch lives is not a concept. Is it wrong. You can't sacrifice the lives of the innocence to pay our debt.
This is true. It is also true that sometimes the lesser of two evils is the only choice to make. The other choice being to accept the greater evil.

3. Rented or not, it is still their Doman, and you should respect their right if they wanted them to leave.
This principal can only be taken so far.
Remember it was a gathering of the entire community which happened to be hosted in side of fries territory.
This is one of the problems of not having freehold.
The sabbats 'mistake' is just showing up without sending a request in advance for their emmisaries to be in attendance.
If they did and we granted it, then at a gathering of the entire community, one gang can't decide to revoke the comunal invitation of someone else emisary who is there to speak with all of the gangs.

5. I am asking the Baron to step in, because clearly there are problems and you'd rather escalate them, then settle them outright peacefully, with how I did speak to you earlier in private.
Be more specific. You are asking me to step in how? Again, if you want me to sit down wit hyou two and mediate some sort of conflict resolution about your personal issues, that is something for anothe rtime and place. Right now we should remain focused on the specific issue of what we are going to do about the sabbat.

6. I have nothing against you son of the Prince.
Ouch! Come on. This is what got he and masons deciding to withdraw in the first place. We like Fracois remember. We'd rather he and the masons look upon the community with favor rather than scorn. Francois also knew better than to waste the lives of anarchs futily. Biding ones time and accumulating power for fast and devestating strikes is inspiration we owe to him.
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Charles Rockledge · Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:33 pm Post subject:

-Charles logs Simeons vote in the register. Looks up

i once played cards with god, when i caught him cheating he tried to blame it on the devil. but how could that be i said. the devil was helping me cheat you

Wait a minute. G'd doesn't cheat at cards. It must have been the devil pretending to be G'd you were playing with while another demon was pretending to be the devil helping you cheat. So as to cause you to loose your faith. G'd is totally honest. Even during games of rommpanu (Texas hold 'em poker)

-blinks as Ulric storms out. .sighs.
So what do you think folks.
Break for a smoke and some drinks, meet back tonight?
Perhaps at the boardroom? ...or harley's and honey's?
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V......... · Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:49 pm Post subject: ..

chalie,, dont worry it went over you head, just breath and relax...lol

wiggs · Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 1:54 pm Post subject:

Yah I do it too simon... Man I should bought more popcorn. This drama is off the chain. Hey I got if i make gang of anarch hamsters, guinee pigs, and lammas can i get a say? It be called Wiggs Alpha Force Team Society! Of course i can always set up a petting zoo from hell. Chicks dig that right?
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wiggs · Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject:

Wiggs sees this infront of him and when ulrich leaves he instantly goes after him.
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V......... · Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2011 2:21 pm Post subject: ..

hey i thought only way outa your gang was to die, and didn't you do that and they pulllled you back in..lol . but on second thought,, ya thats a stilla no

Alura · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 369

*Dodges the spit gracefully, and blocks Ulric's path to leave using celerity.*

I'm telling you sacrificing innocent mortals is wrong. Get it through your thick head, there is no lesser of two evils. There is wrong and also wrong.

And yes I'd suck his Prince Cock, and do you know why I like him and not you? Because he has some tact and etiquette, while somehow all his charm and eloquence seems to have passed you by.

I'm going to get mad and spit on a woman, aren't you just the gentleman here?

Oh, so now you'll admit there is a problem. That you cannot deal with me personally, and now you're just going to run away. Well guess what, fuck you too. Tell me, who is the sissy girl here, running away like a pansy, and who is being the mature responsible person and trying to handle this in public, in private, and every which way.

Here's the thing, you refuse to admit there is a problem, and as soon as there is a problem you can't deal with it you run away.

Man up Ulric and grow a pair.

Alura · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 369

So for your concert, let's do Sunday April 17. (The third Sunday of the month.) Antrium playhouse. Don't worry, I'll get the word out for you. Everyone will be there, and I'm really looking forward to an excellent show.

The Antrium Playhouse definitely has the best acoustics, which I'm assuming will be probably necessary because your instrument is so small.

Billy · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 197

*the average looking Billy appears out of no where as if he'd been there the whole time*

a concert on the 17th...i'll be sure to be there.

Alura, this small instrement... um are you makeing a joke cus having your head in the gutter like i do...its funny is all.

Charles, still going out for drinks? ill come along with ya.
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Ulrich Bardonia · Admin Joined: 02 Apr 2010 Posts: 108

*Ulrich will use potence on you if you forcefully insert yourself in the way*

Alura, I'm leaving for your best interests, if I stay your blood may end up down my throat you snotty selfish bitch. I think it was actually quite polite of me to spit my own blood at you rather than immediately go for the earlier option.

You speak of my lack of tact, but I feel no need to be tactful towards you or anyone else who has never shown me tact. So get off your self-righteous hypocritical horse before like Katherine the great you get trampled to death.

I remember plenty of occasions where you have done things to endanger the safety of mortals and vampires. Don't forget whelp, I have lived here far longer than you and have a good memory. See here, I'm being tactful and not calling you out.

Lastly, I called this meeting you dumb whore! Of course I know there's a problem, but it's not going to be solved by me slaking my thirst on your inferior blood. I will continue to participate in the meeting via speakerphone.

NOW MOVE!

Alura · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 369

Alura graciously curtsies out of the way.

"Take your leave your Highness."

Charles Rockledge · Posted: Tue Apr 12, 2011 9:48 am Post subject:

@wiggs.
I think chicks like the aminals that wont try and bite 'em. On the other hand, there's some weird fetish sites on the net, so maybe some chicks.

There is wrong and also wrong.
Allura, when you don't have the choice of wrong, also wrong, and right; or your choice is wrong and alive, or also wrong and dead. There is always a choice that is better than another, even when all the available choices are bad. That's life.

Anyway there is no point arguing the point after the fact. It is now the past, over and done with. The consequences are what me must adress, the cause of the problem is evident, but the soulution must now be decided upon for implementation.

Please knock it off with that prince nonsense; I don't want you trying to provoke a frenzy out of ulric in the middle of buisness. Spend time on the GF with some 'princes' and you'll see Francois was never of their ilk. That mustache guy was wrong from the get go.

@Billy, yeah I think we all need a moment to recollect tempers. A cuppa something Irish will do me good.
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Ulrich Bardonia · Admin Joined: 02 Apr 2010 Posts: 108

Allura, if you choose to worship me so be it, but there's no need to address me with formal titles.

*Ulrich leaves, A ghoul carries in a small portable speaker and places it on the table in front of where Ulrich was sitting, then quickly leaves the room*
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