Under The Rock

Charles Rockledge · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 1:24 am Post subject:

The value of that chair is 4 sabbats that can be slain with the severed legs of it: -priorities!

Speaking of which, I'd just been thinking how we all jumped down Simeons throat again for making ready to take on Slice and dice when they crashed the party last time.

This is my own good nature making me forget that the only faux pax in that, was not waiting for Summer to authorise the hit first, as this town is harlequinn territory. The sabat comming univited is one of those things that right of dstruction can be apply to. They are supposed to schedual their visits in advance to obtain clearance for safe passage through anarch territory.

What I was talking about last time is exactly this sort of thing. Out of habit even, we let them off the hook with no consequences and even get angry at one of our own for reacting the way we actually aught to have been.

Speaking of potential faux pax, the sabbat left last gathering thinking we're giving them a portion of the mall. This is before we'd even reached a resolution on the proposed compromise. This can have horrible backlash. The cam, giovanni, harlequins, and setites, all have long disputed the claim of that place and we don't want them thinking we hold those who do regularly attack us in higher regard or with a greater desire to apease. That will just encourage them to attack us too, hoping we'd offer them a piece of the pie that way since being peaceable hasn't gotten them anythign but has gotten the sabbat some seemingly preferental treatment.

All the denizens of this county must realise we hold them in egual regard. This is why the deal must be offered to everyone at once. Not only does get that much more bait on the hook, for the hunters; and 'soldiers' as each party has their own vendettas to settle with them; but it shows we're not ofering the sabbat something in spite of their behavior these past few years while refusing to oer anything to those who have consistintly been our allies in the past to whome we've had mutually supportive buisness arrangements.

I would like confirmation to bring the deal to the remain parties prior to our upcomming rendevous. The more parties who jump on the bandwagon, the greater our chances of sucess.
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Alura · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 369

I was ready to jump the Sabbat as well, especially for bowling for babies - how horrible - and attacking Simon. It did not however seem like anyone else was going to back me up. I wasn't going to be the one casting the first stone at the Sabbat in a semi peaceful meeting.

Also the price of that chair is $432.32, it's made from a fine oak and hand crafted, but yes let us destroy chairs, so people will cut down more trees and make more chairs. It seems you really do care a lot about the forest with all the damage you do. I'm surprised you haven't driven a car into anything lately. Please realize your reckless and rash behaviors is what got you killed in the first place. Think things through, mellow out, and you might not die again.

wiggs · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:10 pm Post subject:

Ignoring alura completely... again... Looks in Charles with awe... "Um that's incorrect but damn what a answer... This chair is suddenly not that important right now..." He flips the chair to face Charles and sits down. "Well what you say is true Charles my boy... Indeed a backlash... But I have to wonder something... You being Barron of the free hold... What you going to do about it? To be honest I agree we need to stick together and all but what are we going to do? Were all like some big stupid vampire cattle without any direction. Sometimes being a leader is to take up action. Yah we agreed to give Sabbat part of the mall. Do I like it? Hell no... Is it a catch 22?! Yes It's always a catch 22 Charles. But again what you going to do about it?"

Wiggs lights a cigarette. "Hell Man! You need conformation? From all the other gangs before you make an action?! No offense I find that purely pathetic. And I'm calling ya out cause this entire time we form committees and decisions based on these *Wiggs raises his fingers up and down as he says this next line* quote on quote committees* Now granted I'm not the most patient of the bunch but I know fight when I see it. And it coming believe me. With the hunters or whatever. Soon it wont be time of conference or talking or jerking off or whatever you guys like doing...Point I'm trying to make is you don't need conformation from any gangs. If your going to do something... DO IT. I'll be right behind you know that... But unless you act instead of talking.. Nobody going respect yar title man... So saying that... Will you lead us? or put us in a worse hole?" Wiggs stares at Charles very seriously as he says this. The cigarette burns Wiggs stares at Charles waiting a response.

Alura · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 369

*She smiles at Wiggs.* For once you're making sense.

Charles Rockledge · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject:

wiggs · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 9:45 pm Post subject:

Wiggs stops with a blank look on his face... He reads the paper slowly.. Then finally looking up at Charles says... "Okay I'll give you that Charles... The community has been united under your banner... But ask your self this for how long? All that peace you talk about... and stability... Will come crashing down, eventually. Will the Anarchs forgive you for mistakes? Or fuck ups? Will they stand beside you thick or thin? or leave your ass to dry?!"

Wiggs lights another cigarette. "The point I'm trying to make still is that you still haven't not taken any action required against the hunters. This is not a community happy go lucky fairy blah blah land. This is reality. Your dealing hear are very power full bed bugs. Undead insects that can tear you a new one in a second. Exterminators, GIANT MUTANT PUPPIES, the list goes on and on. So NO... I think it's still BS. There is no stability truly for our way of life cause sooner or later something is going to come crashing down and break our happy little community!" *Wiggs trying to regain his cool takes his unfinished cigarette and smokes another at the same time. *

"You say you cant do it without a decision. Bullshit... I mean BULLSHIT. *Wiggs breaks the chair in front of him* Trying to regain his cool Wiggs stands up. The cigarettes rolled to the floor. "Sorry for the dramatics... But the Point is this... You can make a decision and whatever the community said it doesn't matter because it what you do that makes you man... Not what you say... or plan. If you don't someone can easily declare themselves as Barron and to be honest all you have truly behind you is summers."

Wiggs shakes his head. "Again... you need to stop worrying about what others think and just do it. If there something is wrong and it is just wrong don't do it. But if you have something that you think is good but you need a council to give the OK?! Again bullll SHIITTT! Just do it and then worry about the consequences later. The longer you plan the less time you'll have left to execute man..." Wiggs lights another the cigarette and begins to clean up his mess. "Sorry about the mess... Oh and by the way... this is not a vampire democracy... this is anarchy..."

(occ lol btw Drew what did that paper say? Wanna pm it?)

Alura · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 369

I didn't know you learned how to read Wiggs.

V......... · Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 11:31 pm Post subject: ..

the sabbat have taken first blood by clawing me. i was just standing their an dthey moved past me, not my fault their blind. but well the next time some peple need a vote ill just remember how it all went. i never forget anything..well anymore since i woke. never the less. its bad moves for all parties

wiggs · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 12:34 am Post subject:

Wiggs looks at V and says... "um they attacked you? When was this? Sorry if i wasn't there to help. When was this and who are you btw? Oh My name is Wiggs if you didn't hear before...."

Charles Rockledge · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 3:09 pm Post subject:

But ask your self this for how long?
Well, hoepfully the unity will last lot longer than I plan to be at the helm myself. Now that there's a working system again, at last, it should outlive individual leaders.

All that peace you talk about... and stability... Will come crashing down, eventually.
Everything ends 'eventually'. The trick is making 'eventually' be a very long time away.

Will the Anarchs forgive you for mistakes?
Or fuck ups?
Will they stand beside you thick or thin?
or leave your ass to dry?!"

That's up to each one to decide for themselves. I only know other people minds when they invite me to. ...or are an enemy of course...

"The point I'm trying to make still is that you still haven't not taken any action required against the hunters."
-raises eyebrow
Of course I have.
Given the security problems of late, I'm not gonna recite them aloud this time though. Lets stick to reviewing old buisness aloud. I can inform you about specifics ...later.

This is not a community happy go lucky fairy blah blah land.
Indeed. We are unfortunatly short on malkavians citizens again.

This is reality.
'Political aspects of war have been part of reality for millenia. It's not fantastical to include them in our own planning sessions.

Your dealing hear are very power full bed bugs. Undead insects that can tear you a new one in a second. Exterminators, GIANT MUTANT PUPPIES, the list goes on and on.
In your description, am I seeing:ghouled fleas, the hunters, and those garou that sork with the fomorie instead of against them?

So NO... I think it's still BS.
What's BS?
There is no stability truly for our way of life cause sooner or later something is going to come crashing down and break our happy little community!"
Something is goint to try. Regularly. The question of their success at it depends on us. The more 'stability' we have in the in-betwens attacks times, the stronger our comunal defence will be inanticipation of the next attack, and the more easily and quickly we can pick up the pieces afterwards.

"You say you cant do it without a decision. Bullshit... I mean BULLSHIT.
-sighs
Wiggs. If'n ya'd like to petition this cabinet for a vote to authorise the baron to have emegecny powers in excess of the standard lot. I certainly wont object. Keep in mind though, that's exactly how emperor Palpatine began his career.
-raises my eyebrow (looks sardonic/ironic?)

But the Point is this... You can make a decision and whatever the community said it doesn't matter
Dude. Public servants can't 'do' without paying heed to their constituency. Rulers do that. Bad Rulers. Ones who caue anarchs to revolt in the first place.

because it what you do that makes you man... Not what you say... or plan.
What I 'do' is take part in my own plans too, as well as those of others, rather than 'delegating: read as pawning off; the responsability. My plans are still group based though. They're plans that rely on the collective strenght of the entire anarch community. Hence they need to consent to lend me their strenght for the various uses to which I plan, and so propose, to employ that strenght.

"If you don't someone can easily declare themselves as Barron "
No. Your missing the constituency part. Any idiot can waltz into townand say "Hey I'm Baron." and everyone else will scoff and say "Not!". The baron is an elected office. He's voted in; and out; by the masses; not declared by his own will."

"Again... you need to stop worrying about what others think and just do it. If there something is wrong and it is just wrong don't do it. But if you have something that you think is good but you need a council to give the OK?! Again bullll SHIITTT! Just do it and then worry about the consequences later. The longer you plan the less time you'll have left to execute man..."
That's the kind of thinking that got us all into this mess in the first place. I take all posible consequences into account when I plan and weigh the cost and benefits for deciding which palns to enact and when to do so.

"Sorry about the mess... Oh and by the way... this is not a vampire democracy... this is anarchy..."
-charles points to a place in the document he handed to wiggs.

"No. It's a republic actually, hence the funny in the palpatine analogy. Also hence why we'll win rather than loose against our enemies in the end."

wiggs · Posted: Wed Feb 09, 2011 4:26 pm Post subject:

Wiggs looks at Charles... And begins to laugh out loud. Really loud " heh heh ooooo man... They were right about you can lead a horse to water... but you cant make it drink even if you had it drowning...Sigh you're a lost cause Charles. When another vamp tries to come and kick you of the throne you know where to find me..." Wiggs shakes his head as he lights his last cigarette.. Then mutters to himself " A republic... pffttt what he thinks this is... Star wars?"

Wiggs still waits for V to answer.

(ooc: hey Drew what did the notice say btw? get a chance explain or send me a pm)

V......... · Posted: Thu Feb 10, 2011 11:58 pm Post subject: ..

im simmon . when they enter thats when the gangrel clawed.ulreik instigated it or his own amusment. so when i hear anarchs stand together . a thought of whats in it or them comes to mind. so when charles is done with his new movie let me know

wiggs · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 3:44 pm Post subject:

"Ah... Yeeeeah Simon... SIMON SAYS right?! *wiggs does crude Fonzy imatation as he points to Simon.* EYYYYYY!"

Wiggs laughs as he shrugs "I don't know... His movie better be good. Better not have jessica stone parker... A horse looks cuter in my opnion..." Wiggs shivers a little...

Charles Rockledge · Posted: Fri Feb 11, 2011 9:18 pm Post subject:

((Movie?))
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V......... · Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2011 9:14 am Post subject:

nice.. nice wiggs,, now do the slice and dice face