Under The Rock

Charles Rockledge · Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 7:33 pm Post subject:

Raises eyebrow.
The Warehouse district is, or at least was under the old Bardonia map, officiially listed as neutral-freehold territory.
Jebs area was Malk territory.

... ... ... though coincidentially enough, I think that part of the freehold falls under my juristiction as Lord of the North region, ... ... ...

Anyway, as a matter of fact, I do enjoy isn't quite the correct sentiment, regularly walking the streets of this particular neigborhood.
It has some deep nostalgic value to me seeing as a bane forced me to kill my daughter right there on that very spot after being tossed about by my sire and made fool of by Omarii Bardonia's ghoul.

-Shruggs,
I think you need to gather more followers then milk them for inspiration for a name.
You need to be unique for that. If you are too much like knights or council or ...who are the male harlequins, the ... hells' angels?. Then folks will want in to the already established gangs what have reputation... and resources.
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V......... · Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2010 2:56 pm Post subject: YO

do you want a city full of malks to tare you apart and the rest that claim the warehouse as theirs,, its malk territory period, and we ALLOW others to chill hear,, REMEMBER that

Alura · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 369

Actually the warehouse was the local hang out spot for everyone. It is really sad... because it was the local neutral meeting spot for everyone. It's really sad to see this kind of negative change.

If you're declaring it Malkavian only however I do expect you and the rest of the Malks who are invested in the area to hold it, because if you can't protect it from outside influences and invaders, things may have to change.

I would like submissions in writing for everything protecting the area, influences, names, gangs, etc. just so I can account for everything.

Thanks so much. Have a nice day. *She smiles and winks at Charles.*

Charles Rockledge · Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:35 pm Post subject:

do you want a city full of malks ...
-Charles looks about, counting.
Do you mean a city full of Malk? I only can spot the one right now.
-indicates V.
Aren't you from of the icequeen domain? Though we'll be quite glad to have you settle here, in Rockland, instead; that would be fantastic.

to tare you apart and the rest that claim the warehouse as theirs,
pfft.
you wanna tare apart all of the anarchs of the Bardonia barony?!?
You'll need to get in line behind the hunters, the sabbat, the corporation,
You're an equal sized fish as the rest of us while much larger and more powerful fish are already bearing down upon us all.

, its malk territory period, and we ALLOW others to chill hear,, REMEMBER that
I don't know how you are used to doing things, but in this towne simply claiming something as your own doesn't make it so. You have to go through the proper channels to obtain territory. The barony allocates territory out.

Though actually,
-turns to Allura
as to the re-establishing of a masonic style governing cabinet; by default, as the only lead Malk left in this towne, V here would be on it. I actually have no problem with them moving their territory into this area either. There's better than a warehouse these days that can assigned as the anarch general gathering area.
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V......... · Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 11:15 pm Post subject:

ok then your group is claiming it and then their will be war,, so either respect the space i claim as a anarch or not,, up top you if you wanna follow the rules you wanna lead by,, miss barroness and charlie

Alura · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 369

Actually no one is claiming it except you. I just want to know how you plan to hold it. Influences, vampires/gangs, that are protecting the territory. If you plan on claiming it you need to be able to protect it from any outsiders. Sabbat, Camerillian, Werewolves, Hunters, Mages, Dragons, and the like. I'd be careful about the internal forces as well. Since I'm not actually giving you the territory, and you're just claiming it, other people internally might dispute it. If you can prove to me you can hold it, then perhaps I will give it to you. Is your gang backing you behind this?

Charles Rockledge · Posted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:20 am Post subject:

Billy · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 197

(OOC ok this thread was started like in april, outside of the time bubbles i'm suggesting that we stop talking of this stuff soon)

Wow Rocklage your just walking in here like that...i recall scouting out the area, and not being followed. its weird when i call a private meeting and you show up out of now where. don't you have like a play to watch or something?...oh...wait i get it you must have tracked someone to be here.

*looks sternly at V*

well good on ya Rocklage.

*to Alura*

Wow i am impressed, i mean i saw Rocklage walk into the room, but you...you just appeared out of now where, goddamn that is cool, can you like teleport or something, cus if you can that's the shit right there. I mean i know what i can do, and it don't work like that.

but i digress, let V have his territory, its just a simple abandoned warehouse, thats been unowned with no problems, so just let him run the joint and use it as a test...Besides if someone claims it then it could actually be cosidered safe, as of now no one owns the area so its wild west out here. Alura let him claim it...what do you really have to lose here.

Good, now that, thats settled i recommend we all leave i don't like it when more than 1 vampire is in a non safe area. im out

*Billy walks to the door and kicks it open and appears to vanish into this air, and leaves before the door closes*
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Charles Rockledge · Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 6:03 am Post subject:

-blinks
Didn't you invite me?
I thought you invited me?
(OOC: I did think so; after the springfield game you told me about this meeting, no?)

I'll skedadle if'n you want privacy.

(use of expression and perform oration):
Yeah, I've no problem with V claiming the space, it's just that he hasn't 'formerly claimed it' yet. He just announced out of the blue it was his. I'll file his claim when I get back to the office, but in future, when a kindred, gang, clan, etc. wants territory, especially from an area withing the freehold, they're meant first to submit a request for it to the barony.

The Cabinet, which is meant to consists of all clan leaders, and gang bosses, votes on if the county can or can not accomodate the request at the given time, or if they feel the claiment is strong enough ...or of sound enough judgement reletive to whoever currently is protecting the area, to deserve the official transfer of authority; which in many cases includes right of destruction and the like. That's why issues of territory are actually so important. The community needs to trust the claiment with their lives: that the claiment will not abuse right of destruction against them.

We need Bardonia Barony Anarchs to get back into the habit of doing things by the book. It's how we were such a powerful domain for 300 years. We as a domain need to reacquire that power in the face of modern threats. If we are expected to keep the sabbat in their place, deal with hunting parties of various groups, keep the Cam from thinking we're just anouther troublesome pack of rebels, etc. We need to reestablish this county as a power to be reckoned with, and that means we need the order of law to once again bind us all together into a unified county of strength and resolve.

Anarchs must recommit to the ideals of strength through unity. This means we can't everyone for himself with the strongest taking what they want when they want it. That is a bad system that must be discouraged. Instead, the elected representetives of the community must be trusted to do what's in everyones best interests. When the anarchs choose leaders, they must then be willing to follow their lead.

If you and V are the lead Nos and lead Malk in town right now, then your meant to be a part of it. Especially if you are also a gang boss to boot. That means you should be setting example for the newbies and younglings and fledges to help show them how things are done.

Declaring "this is mine", is not how things are done.
It undermines the central authority of the barony.
Anarch territory is meant to be communally owned at least phillosophically spraking; but administered by the barony, who allocates parcels to clans, gangs, individuals, who can demonsate to have sufficient ability to defend those parcels from external threats.

Such allocation of parcels as territory to others allows the barony to reallocate the communal defence resources to currently undefended areas, or to futher concentrate them withing the freehold itself, to ever tighten and strenghten security against outside interference. Thus, granting territories is actually a good for the barony and hoarding them is bad. So a barony would never be especially hesitent to grant a territory unless they; the cabinet, truly have no confidence in the claiments ability to secure and hold it against the common enemies.
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V......... · Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 12:05 am Post subject: umm

ummm are you high or drunk.. i mean,, ... are you?

Charles Rockledge · Posted: Sat Oct 02, 2010 7:59 pm Post subject:

-sighs in annoyance
"No, but I'd suddenly very much like to be."

"Well, if Billy's meeting is over, I'm going to head back home then.
I'm in the mood to find someone really sleezy to have for dinner before I turn in for the day."

Tips his hat at V and Allura then heads for the door.
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Edit:
-pauses at threshhold
-turns to V

"Seeing a show I am such a nice guy V, let me give you a couple of fair warnings.
The first being who might actually be your real rivals for this place; cause it isn't us"
-indicates himself and Allura
"You see, awhile ago, before Allura was ellected Baroness, when by default, Omarii was sort of running this Town, Allura and I had planned to use this site for the next council project; a Rockland County Health Spa. Art theropy theamed of course."

"Anyway, I had sent m'lady Ghoul, not the one that's the middle of my 3 daughters; but the severe one; to the office with all the right paperwork and instructions for other paperwork, legal, financial, beurocratic, etc. to try and secure the deed of this place for the council." "No worries though, the same hour she reported back to me by phone, I had her cancel it all and withdrew all my attention, intrest, concerns, etc. out of this place, and moved on looking for another site to use instead."

You see, m'lady ghoul ran into the lady ghoul of Aaron Cross ...or Krystoff, I forget which brother; the one who with a very gay buisness partner, owns the club in springfield. She had been sent also with all the right paperwork and instructions for mare paperwork to obtain the deed to this parcel. It seems the site had been selected for a Rockland franchise of that Cuban nightclub of theirs."

I don't know whatever became of his interest in the place, now, but I dropped my interest because aside form the fact that there is plenty of territory to go around given our numbers and so no reason to bicker over parcels and alienate buisness partners I'd rather keep a good relationship with; Those two are stronger in the blood than I, they are stronger with age than I, they are stronger with wealth and equpment than I, and stronger in influence than I. Those sexy-arsed brothers are very deadly advasaries to cross;. It would would be futile waste of my time energy and resources at best to try chase a parcel they want, especially one that I don't really need."

Now, I wager you are more powerful than me too.
I also wager you are NOT more poweful then they.
You should probably check with them if they still hold a claim here and if so are willing to part with it since you want this place so badly. Otherwise, you can shout til your blue in the face that this is your place, but if Aaron walks over here, flashes you that gorgeous smile of his, and shoves the deed in your face telling to clear off, and you've a mind to take issue; if he has a mind to, he can call a chopper with rapid fire gatling guns shooting holywater filled oak bullets or something like that to mow you down.

...and all of that is only fair warning number one.
There is a potential claiment of much greater threat then they. Far far greater a danger.

"I'm tired of standing here though.
Come, let me share something sleezy with you for dinner and I will you tell you the real tale to tell of what is possibly behind this joint.
My favorite place for sleezy is at Stilletos.
Meet me there if you like and we'll talk about who your real enemy may be.

-Charles exits the warehouse.
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Alura · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 369

((Actually I thought this was page 2 of another post but since so much is happening at the same time I might as well be here.))

"What are you talking about? I've been here the whole time... You really should pay attention to your surroundings and who is and isn't in the building."

"More importantly... Charles you're arguing with a Malkavian..., we explained everything that needed to be done. If you want this territory I expect everything in triplicate on my desk by the end of October. You and I may be friends V but I'm not going to bend anarch rules and traditions on your account. You need to have the influence, power, and ability, to hold the area. I suggest you speak to Ashes, it is his Warehouse after all, and his late Sire who owed me a favor protected this place.

Earn it, protect it, hold it, dazzle me. We certainly can't have every vampire who wants territory taking it for their own. I hope you can make it into something all of Rockland will be proud of.

But do realize if you decide to go through with this crazy plan, and your proposal is accepted, and stuff hits the fan, I will not be pulling your ass out of the fire."

*She leaves and walks out of the building rolling her eyes at Charles and his chase at sleaze.*

inblack83 · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 398

((ooc this post should have ended a long time ago guys.... do i have to lock it or can we play nice and start new scenes that didnt begin 3 months ago?))

V......... · Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2010 7:31 am Post subject:

ooc: NO YOUR NOT<, its not i magaclly apear and iv been hear the whole time,, you never told a st your follow either of use and no one gave use a chop last game.. your particpation in this is done,, both of you plzs leave ooc and ic..thank you

Alura · Joined: 22 Mar 2010 Posts: 369

((Actually this is how the boards has always worked. People could poof in and out at will. There are people here even if they aren't posting/talking. Unless there is a new ruling on this. >> We both left so it shouldn't be a big deal. If you want to talk privately use messages or a private board. You were even responding to him. It would be ridiculous to go back and red line here...))